The Path To Leadership

How To Lead Like A Human In An AI Workplace

Catalyst Development Season 3 Episode 23

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AI can write your performance reviews, summarize your meetings, and draft your agenda in seconds. But when you walk into a room and your top performer has gone quiet, two teammates are tense, and everyone is bracing for bad news, no algorithm can do the most important job: make people feel safe, seen, and steady.

We break down the AI-proof leadership skills we lean on when the workplace is moving fast. We talk about reading the room with emotional intelligence, creating real psychological safety (and why it is neurological, not fluffy), and building trust the only way it is built: hundreds of small moments where you do what you said you would do. We also dig into accountability, because when a leader owns a miss publicly, defensiveness drops and ownership spreads.

From there we go to the tough stuff AI cannot carry for you: the feedback you have been holding back, the conflict everyone is avoiding, and the “don’t be nice, be kind” courage it takes to tell the truth and stay present for what happens next. We close with meaning-making in uncertainty and the daily character choice AI cannot make for you: who you decide to be at work.

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Quick Leadership Brief Setup

Dr. Katie

Hi everyone. Welcome back to the Path to Leadership. I'm Dr. Katie.

Rhonda Jolyean

And I'm Rhonda Jolene.

Dr. Katie

And we are so thrilled to have you this week. Last week we talked about leadership skills that are AI proof. And this week we're doing one of our leadership briefs. This is a quick 10 to 15 minute podcast, something you can listen to, get some tips and tricks and move on.

Rhonda Jolyean

Get the timer started. Let's go. Right.

Read The Room Like A Pro

Dr. Katie

Okay, here we go. And so really we want to talk about the skills. We want to add on to the skills that we talked about last week because AI can't write it, can write performance reviews, it can write your meeting agendas, but it can't walk into a room and make your team feel like you care about them. And so that's really what we're going to talk about today. So we've got a list of skills that we're going to tag team here. And so the first skill is really reading a room. This really goes into emotional intelligence. AI can read data, but it cannot detect the tension between people who speak, the hesitation, the head nods, the fact that your highest performer has gone quiet. It cannot recognize any of those patterns that have been built over your human experience and that emotional intelligence that you do. And so leaders who read the rooms really catch on to problems before it becomes a crisis.

Psychological Safety Is Neurology

Rhonda Jolyean

For sure. And another thing to keep in mind is that you need to create genuine psychological safety. And we talked about this a lot in the last episode, and we always talk about this. But from a neurological perspective, when the brain perceives threat, the prefrontal, the prefrontal cortex, your creative and strategic thinking center goes offline. So we basically just shut down. We have to think about this as psychological safety isn't just a buzzword or just something that mental health professionals have made up. It's truly a neurological condition. Burnout is real. It is something that is becoming more and more known in the discourse. And it can truly destroy your goals. And as a leader, it can breed and become a toxic workplace and really hit the bottom line. So no algorithm or AI can walk into a team meeting and make people feel psychologically safe. Only you can do that. And human-centered connection will always win out and be able to feel out what people are thinking, feeling, and saying. And that takes a human being when it comes to that self-awareness work.

Trust Built In Small Moments

Dr. Katie

Absolutely. Absolutely. And it's interesting because people often confuse psychological safety with trust. And trust is different, but building trust, it trust is not a process, it's not a chat bot response. It's accumulated through hundreds of small moments where you did what you said you would do. You told the truth when it was hard. You put your team before your ego.

Accountability Creates A Ripple Effect

Rhonda Jolyean

And accountability is hard as a human being. So when a leader takes public ownership of a failure, something shifts in your team. That trust goes up, like you were just talking about, and defensiveness goes down. So people start taking their own accountability more seriously. And then it's contagious. So that leader truly walks the walk. And again, AI will never be able to create that ripple effect.

Dr. Katie

Yeah. And all of this, the psychological safety, the trust, the accountability, the it also allows us to have conversations that nobody wants to have. It's the for me, it's the don't be nice, be kind. Uh tell people the truth. And AI can't, AI can't do that. It can only report out what you feed it. And so the feedback that's been sitting in your head for months, the conflict between team members that are being that's being avoided, the underperformer that you keep giving just one more chance. AI can draft a script for you, but it cannot sit across from the human being. It cannot navigate what happens next. That really requires you to be in the room. It requires the presence, the judgment, and the courage. And all of these can be developed, but absolutely none of them can be automated.

Rhonda Jolyean

Yes. And yeah, again, it's yeah, it goes. I just keep thinking it goes back to code. And one thing that AI will never be able to replace, and that we as leaders will always be able to that we will need to have as skills is to make meaning out of uncertainty. So I talked a lot about this when I talked about transformation and change management and the things that leaders get wrong and right. And we as leaders have to help our team make meaning out of uncertainty. You know, neuroaesthetics research shows that human beings are meaning-making creatures. We have to have narrative when we don't understand things, when things are in the gray. We want the narrative. And yes, a lot of human beings right now are turning to AI as therapists, which don't get me started on that. But there's a lot of ups and downs with that. Again, that's there's some positives to that, but it's just code. That AI is not going to be there for people with emotions, and it's not going to be able to read the facial expressions of employees and of your team. So you, we as leaders have that opportunity to help create that narrative for our teams and to respond in real time to what's happening, and then to be there and be in, I hate to use the because it's a war analogy, but in the trenches with our team, alongside them. We get to be alongside them while these things are happening. And that's something that AI will never be able to replace.

Dr. Katie

Yeah, I agree. I agree. And the final skill we want to talk about is to AI cannot decide who to be. AI can optimize, but it cannot choose. Every day when we walk into our organization, whether we walk into a physical location or we pop up our computer, we make dozens and dozens and dozens of micro decisions about who we are as a leader. Do I listen? Do I talk? Do I protect my team? Do I cover myself? Do I develop others? Or do I just use them? Those are not efficiency questions. These are character questions. It's integrity questions. It's who do I want to be as a leader and what is my definition of success? And AI can't do that for you. You get to decide who you want to be every day at work. 100%.

Rhonda Jolyean

And in this world of AI, fast-moving information, we get to choose being a leader who is going to either embrace it and be ahead of the curve with innovation and embrace curiosity and embrace creativity and say, you know what? This is real. These aren't fluff words. To be able to manage productivity, to manage ROI, baseline revenue, all of these things that are quantifiable. Can have meaning making all of these things that weren't as easy 20 years ago and show a real difference between an AI-based world versus a non-AI-based world. And I think that's really exciting. And it's a way for people to flex skills that they weren't maybe always able to have. And I can't wait to see what people choose. But I know what kind of leader I choose to be.

Skills You Can Practice Daily

Dr. Katie

So yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. And what I love about this list that we talked about today, what we talked about last week, these are skills. They can be developed. They're not personality traits. It's not something you either have it or you don't. These can be practiced, they can be developed. They're daily behaviors each day. That's what I've built all my work on. That's what I built my 52 weeks of leadership on. It's how we show up each day and practice being the kind of leader that AI can never replace.

Rhonda Jolyean

Yes. And I definitely can't wait to keep diving into the 52 weeks of leadership. And it's a great way to have reflective time. And if you want to go deeper on creativity and the neuroscience of the things that we've discussed, the brain that leads the best is the brain that's given space to imagine, to feel, and then to connect. So those things aren't luxuries, especially in today's world. These are foundational skills that we need for health, foundational aspects that we need for health. So they are the operating system for everything else on this list.

The Leadership Skill Challenge

Dr. Katie

Yeah, I agree. I agree. And so we have a challenge for everyone is to pick an item from the list that we talk about this week or last week and do it. Do it deliberately, not because you were told to do it, but because you want to be irreplaceable and you want to build these AI-proof skills. So pick the skills, let us know. We want to hear about it. Share this podcast with people around you. Challenge them to pick a skill and you all talk about it. Sit around a table with no computers in front of you, just notepads and coloring books and doodles and talk about these skills that you're developing.

Rhonda Jolyean

I love that idea. I want to go get my coloring books right now.

Dr. Katie

I love it. I love it. Okay, we did it. No fluff. We it was really hard for us because you all who listen to the podcast know that we love when you see video clips of this, you're gonna see us just struggling not to keep adding to it. But we've heard you, some of you really enjoy these little um quick leadership briefs. So we hope you enjoy it and we'll talk to you next time on the path to leadership. Bye, everyone. Bye.

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